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Well, that wasn't pretty. But we're professionals, so we still recorded a podcast.

After NC State's 45-24 loss to No. 20 Virginia Tech, Cory and Michael discussed the horrid start from Bailey Hockman, issues in the trenches -- on both sides -- and their thoughts on the Pack's offense late in the game under Devin Leary.