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Following a 31-20 win over Duke at home, NC State heads back out on the road with a 4-1 record against UNC-Chapel Hill at noon this Saturday. C.L. Brown of the News & Observer joins us to discuss the Tar Heels ahead of the first ranked matchup between the two schools since 1993.

Is Sam Howell back on track after a slow start? How will UNC respond after a loss to Florida State on the road? What makes the Tar Heels' running back duo so explosive? Which team does C.L. pick to pull out the win?